<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div>Phil, I am totally against the concept of Leaderboards for the top 50 most wanted. I believe it causes big pileups of stations, especially big guns, many of whom probably have worked the entity and confirmed it in the past. Give the Little Guns with dipoles a chance. <br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="ydp5ed5863asignature">73, Jim W3NRJ</div></div>
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, 2:25:31 PM EST, Phillip Barsky via NCDXA <ncdxa@ncdxa.org> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">To NCDXA Members.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Please follow the thread below which covers some communications between the<br></div><div dir="ltr">VP6D team, who we just donated to, and NCDXA, concerning issues related to<br></div><div dir="ltr">small stations ( e.g. 100W, wire antennas) and even smaller stations (QRP<br></div><div dir="ltr">and wire antennas). They are looking for suggestions on how to give ATNO<br></div><div dir="ltr">to as many stations, including the small shooters. Fred has already<br></div><div dir="ltr">suggested two per his email below:<br></div><div dir="ltr">1) No leader board, which would preclude the big guns trying to work Ducie<br></div><div dir="ltr">Is on every band and mode.<br></div><div dir="ltr">2) Have one station on 20 at all times to provide probably the best band<br></div><div dir="ltr">for communication between US and Ducie.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Please send me your ideas for optimizing ATNO's for Ducie Is. DxPedition.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Please provide rationale for your suggestion- it will help in understanding<br></div><div dir="ltr">your recommendation(s). Please submit them to me within the next week or<br></div><div dir="ltr">so, and I will issue a draft list of recommendations for member review. I<br></div><div dir="ltr">will edit the list based upon editorial suggestions received, for improving<br></div><div dir="ltr">the draft. .<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thank you ahead of time for your suggestions/ inputs.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">73 Phil K3EW<br></div><div dir="ltr">Treasurer NCDXA<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Alfred Laun <<a href="mailto:hs0zar@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hs0zar@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 5:23 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: VP6D - Ducie Island Grant<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Phillip Barsky <<a href="mailto:phillipbarsky@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">phillipbarsky@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Phil:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Please go ahead and work up a survey draft and canvass the membership. I'm<br></div><div dir="ltr">afraid that the existence of Leaderboards which encourages DXers to work<br></div><div dir="ltr">Dxpeditions on as many bands and modes as possible goes contrary to the<br></div><div dir="ltr">interests of QRPers and others trying to work a station at least once on<br></div><div dir="ltr">any band for an ATNO. The DXpedition might want to announce that DXers are<br></div><div dir="ltr">discouraged from participating in leaderboards and that no recognition will<br></div><div dir="ltr">be given by the sponsors for those who end up on top of a leaderboard.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Another tactic that might help QRPers is to have one station remain on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">same band and mode all through the DXpedition, say 20 meters SSB or 20 CW.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">73, Fred, K3ZO<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Phillip Barsky <<a href="mailto:phillipbarsky@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">phillipbarsky@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Fred, GM. I do have some thoughts about how to equitably handle low<br></div><div dir="ltr">> power and QRP opswho are trying to work them . But, I think maybe we<br></div><div dir="ltr">> should formulate a NCDXA position on the subject. I would be happy to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> canvas our membership , analyze responses and develop a consensus opinion<br></div><div dir="ltr">> based on the inputs. Let me know your thoughts re NCDXA position on Low<br></div><div dir="ltr">> power and QRP ops and Dxpeditions<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thank you<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 73. Phil<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Begin forwarded message:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *From:* Gene K5GS <<a href="mailto:k5gs@pdxg.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">k5gs@pdxg.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Date:* January 9, 2018 at 8:07:50 AM EST<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *To:* Phillip Barsky <<a href="mailto:phillipbarsky@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">phillipbarsky@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Cc:* Alfred Laun K3ZO <<a href="mailto:hs0zar@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hs0zar@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* *Re: VP6D - Ducie Island Grant*<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Reply-To:* <a href="mailto:k5gs@arrl.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">k5gs@arrl.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Phil,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks for the note.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I've already planted this seed with the leadership team, will discuss at<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the next team call:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I'd like to offer the DX community some operating time for only those that<br></div><div dir="ltr">> need Ducie for an ATNO, and only low power stations. Both of these tend to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> be on the "honor system" as we have no way to know if the OP is really low<br></div><div dir="ltr">> power or ATNO. Even if we see the call in our log once, that's not a good<br></div><div dir="ltr">> indicator, could be a busted call or the OP didn't log it. Of course, the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> other callers need some discipline and stop calling.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> My original thought was QRP, 5 watts or lower, but one EU guy suggested<br></div><div dir="ltr">> maybe 20 watts and lower. With most rigs being 100 watts, maybe that's the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> number? I'm not a QRP guy and don't know their protocol (if there is one)</div>_______________________________________________<br>NCDXA mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCDXA@ncdxa.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NCDXA@ncdxa.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.rickmurphy.net/mailman/listinfo/ncdxa" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://mail.rickmurphy.net/mailman/listinfo/ncdxa</a><br></div>
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