<div dir="ltr">This is a thing that could be done. That all said, Fred was acutely aware of the notion of memorial calls and vanity calls. He may have left a directive to his executor to do something about that.<div><br></div><div>73 Rich NN3W</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 5:00 PM w4rn73 via PVRC <<a href="mailto:pvrc@mailman.qth.net">pvrc@mailman.qth.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The PVRC chapter to which Fred belonged can form a club and request his call in memoriam. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The ARRL's VEC office and the MD director could be of assistance in this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The K3ZO call sign could then be kept alive and in use for PVRC Field Day or NAQP efforts (et al] rather than retiring it which is, in effect hiding it away. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just a suggestion. I, for one would enjoy working K3ZO again through the tears and remembering our dear, departed member and friend.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">73</div><div dir="auto">Mike</div><div dir="auto">W4RN </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="m_-4855181739507763219composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:12px;color:rgb(87,87,87)" dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Robert B. Weinstock via PVRC" <<a href="mailto:pvrc@mailman.qth.net" target="_blank">pvrc@mailman.qth.net</a>> </div><div>Date: 1/5/23 4:33 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Phillip Barsky <<a href="mailto:phillipbarsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillipbarsky@gmail.com</a>>, Fred Matos <<a href="mailto:blainefred@verizon.net" target="_blank">blainefred@verizon.net</a>> </div><div>Cc: PVRC Digest Submissions <<a href="mailto:pvrc@mailman.qth.net" target="_blank">pvrc@mailman.qth.net</a>>, NCDXA <<a href="mailto:ncdxa@ncdxa.org" target="_blank">ncdxa@ncdxa.org</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [PVRC] [NCDXA] K3ZO Ham Bio from NCJ 2015 courtesy CW Ops </div><div><br></div></div>
Intriguing concept, but I feel quite sure that FCC would not entertain such a request. FCC could, however, reissue K3ZO to an entity formed for the purpose of memorializing Fred, as they have done in many other cases.<div><br><div>73,</div><div><br></div><div>Bob, W3RQ</div><div><br><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p style="font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px">On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 3:52 PM, Phillip Barsky <<a href="mailto:phillipbarsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillipbarsky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote><div id="m_-4855181739507763219yiv5104048576"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Fred, How does one do that?<br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">73 Phil</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div id="m_-4855181739507763219yiv5104048576yqt36684"><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:39 PM Fred Matos <<a href="mailto:blainefred@verizon.net" shape="rect" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blainefred@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Another way to honor amateurs who have made major contributions to the service is that their call sign would be “retired” by the FCC after they died and never reissued.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661" shape="rect" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><p style="font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px">On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 1:22 PM, Phillip Barsky via NCDXA <<a href="mailto:ncdxa@ncdxa.org" shape="rect" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ncdxa@ncdxa.org</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote><div id="m_-4855181739507763219yiv5104048576m_6861563748620552732yiv0825201554"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Willie, Have you sent your fabulous idea to the CEO of the ARRL? Going directly to the top works, in most cases, to illuminate the idea in an organization. I would surmise that MOST hams licensed in the late fifties to early sixties have similar backgrounds fostered by ham activities in their teens. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Thank you for speaking out about this subject.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">73 Phil K3EW</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 11:42 AM WILLIE BABER <<a href="mailto:wlbaber@bellsouth.net" shape="rect" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wlbaber@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_-4855181739507763219yiv5104048576m_6861563748620552732yiv0825201554m_-4940623637696289966yiv2073042494"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_-4855181739507763219yiv5104048576m_6861563748620552732yiv0825201554m_-4940623637696289966yiv2073042494ydpa7f93740yiv3550594071"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="font-size:16px"> "<span style="font-size:18px">We knew this day would eventually come. It doesn't make it any easier." --Ken, k4zw</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">I have often wondered what would make it easier, as we all have it "coming" in an aging fraternity.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">I suggest public narratives of the lives of senior amateurs while we are still living, in QST.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">I have suggested this approach to QST editors and as a possible repacement of "a look back"---rather than reprint an old QST cover and article, describe instead the real-lives of senior ops including the link between professional lives, and/or work, and radio technology and activity. This would not involve contesting only, but any technological and/or operating aspect of amateur radio. </span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="font-size:18px">What would Fred, k3zo, have had to say about diplomacy and amateur radio, in some details about his life? While we can reconstruct Fred's story based on the NCJ interview, other published material, and those who knew him well, there is no substitute for the words of Fred, himself.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">I offered an example to QST through the life and work of Jim Hall, w4tvi, a dxer, cw op, and engineer. I helped Jim disassemble his station and EE laboratory. He and wife Myrtle moved into assisted living as they both approach the age of 90 years.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">I am hopeful that Jim's story will grace the pages of QST while he is still living.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">Why? </span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">Jim was the lead engineer and manager of HP's development (with Japanese engineers) of Canon printers. He was highly successful, but over time he very much missed working in rf engineering. Jim retired early just to get back into radio---otherwise having very little leisure time given work as an HP manager.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">Each life story could highlight ones youthful interest in radio and operating--including older technology and old radios---that often led to work opportunities or other insights into life and work; this knowledge may be helpful to young people today in the same way that Jim, in his youth, was inspired by Thomas Edison (self-educated), who died in 1931.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">Or, in the example of Fred, how he got involved in the United States Foreign Service and PVRC, as noted in the NCJ interview.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">Finally, maybe this approach to "a look back" would help bridge the generational gap in amateur radio, in the pages of QST.</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">Fred, k3zo</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">RIP</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px">73, Will, wj9b</span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-size:18px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:16px">CWops #1085<br clear="none">Former CWA Advisor levels II and III<br clear="none"><a href="http://cwops.org/" shape="rect" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cwops.org/</a></div></div><div style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div></div>
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On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 8:04:04 AM MST, Phillip Barsky <<a href="mailto:phillipbarsky@gmail.com" shape="rect" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">phillipbarsky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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