[NCDXA] Fwd: VP6D - Ducie Island Grant

[Irv [K3IRV] McWherter]

I agree with doing away with the leaderboards.

73, Irv - K3IRV

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Jim Locke via NCDXA <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
wrote:

> Phil, I am totally against the concept of Leaderboards for the top 50 most
> wanted.  I believe it causes big pileups of stations, especially big guns,
> many of whom probably have worked the entity and confirmed it in the past.
> Give the Little Guns with dipoles a chance.
>
>
> 73, Jim W3NRJ
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, 2:25:31 PM EST, Phillip Barsky via NCDXA <
> ncdxa at ncdxa.org> wrote:
>
>
> To NCDXA Members.
>
> Please follow the thread below which covers some communications between the
> VP6D team, who we just donated to, and NCDXA, concerning issues related to
> small stations ( e.g. 100W, wire antennas) and even smaller stations (QRP
> and wire antennas).  They are looking for suggestions on how to give ATNO
> to as many stations, including the small shooters. Fred has already
> suggested two per his email below:
> 1) No leader board, which would preclude the big guns trying to work Ducie
> Is on every band and mode.
> 2) Have one station on 20 at all times to provide probably the best band
> for communication between US and Ducie.
>
> Please send me your ideas for optimizing ATNO's for Ducie Is. DxPedition.
> Please provide rationale for your suggestion- it will help in understanding
> your recommendation(s). Please submit them to me within the next week or
> so, and I will issue a draft list of recommendations for member review. I
> will edit the list based upon editorial suggestions received, for improving
> the draft. .
>
> Thank you ahead of time for your suggestions/ inputs.
>
> 73  Phil K3EW
> Treasurer  NCDXA
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alfred Laun <hs0zar at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: VP6D - Ducie Island Grant
> To: Phillip Barsky <phillipbarsky at gmail.com>
>
>
> Phil:
>
> Please go ahead and work up a survey draft and canvass the membership.  I'm
> afraid that the existence of Leaderboards which encourages DXers to work
> Dxpeditions on as many bands and modes as possible goes contrary to the
> interests of QRPers and others trying to work a station at least once on
> any band for an ATNO.  The DXpedition might want to announce that DXers are
> discouraged from participating in leaderboards and that no recognition will
> be given by the sponsors for those who end up on top of a leaderboard.
>
> Another tactic that might help QRPers is to have one station remain on the
> same band and mode all through the DXpedition, say 20 meters SSB or 20 CW.
>
> 73, Fred, K3ZO
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Phillip Barsky <phillipbarsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fred,  GM.  I do have some thoughts about how to equitably handle low
> > power and QRP opswho are trying to work them .  But, I think maybe we
> > should formulate a NCDXA position on the subject.  I would be happy to
> > canvas our membership ,  analyze responses and develop a consensus
> opinion
> > based on the inputs. Let me know your thoughts re NCDXA position on Low
> > power and QRP ops and Dxpeditions
> >
> > Thank you
> > 73. Phil
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > *From:* Gene K5GS <k5gs at pdxg.net>
> > *Date:* January 9, 2018 at 8:07:50 AM EST
> > *To:* Phillip Barsky <phillipbarsky at gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* Alfred Laun K3ZO <hs0zar at gmail.com>
> > *Subject:* *Re: VP6D - Ducie Island Grant*
> > *Reply-To:* k5gs at arrl.net
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > Thanks for the note.
> >
> > I've already planted this seed with the leadership team, will discuss at
> > the next team call:
> >
> > I'd like to offer the DX community some operating time for only those
> that
> > need Ducie for an ATNO,  and only low power stations. Both of these tend
> to
> > be on the "honor system" as we have no way to know if the OP is really
> low
> > power or ATNO. Even if we see the call in our log once, that's not a good
> > indicator, could be a busted call or the OP didn't log it. Of course, the
> > other callers need some discipline and stop calling.
> >
> > My original thought was QRP, 5 watts or lower, but one EU guy suggested
> > maybe 20 watts and lower. With most rigs being 100 watts, maybe that's
> the
> > number? I'm not a QRP guy and don't know their protocol (if there is one)
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