[NCDXA] [PVRC] Dayton Question

[Ken Claerbout]

Hi Frank - short vertical arrays are a great option.  I have the
monoband 8 element Hi-Z arrays for 160 and 80 plus, a 3 element in an
L pattern that uses two vertices at a time and gives 4 directions.
The three elements cover 160, 80, and 40 meters.  Obviously the mono
band 8 element arrays are superior, but the 3 element is not that far
down and has a much smaller footprint.  An advantage of 3 elements are
the broader pattern, perfect for domestic contesting.

Regarding use of the NCC-2, as you say you can steer the null but, how
do you know what direction the null is in?  It seems to be a hit or
miss. We did that very thing at ET3AA, two active elements and the
NCC-2.  In fact we were able to null the noise.  But I had no idea
which direction the null was, until later.

Even though the noise was down, so were the signals from Europe and
North America.  So it appears the null was to the northwest.  That's
not a good scenario when your major noise source is from the same
direction as the signals you are trying to hear.  Later we used the
NCC-2 as a noise cancelling device, a noise sense antenna on one of
the channels to pick up only the local noise.  That helped some.

73
Ken K4ZW


On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 3:00 PM Frank W3LPL <donovanf at starpower.net> wrote:
>
> Fred -
>
> Some 160 meter receiving loops are better than others...
>
> IMHO the best compact 160 meter receiving antenna is two short close spaced
> verticals phased with a DX Engineering NCC-2 controller.
>
> See my attached Contest University Presentation
>
> There is a related video here:
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux5UoiYyKNM
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Fred Matos" <blainefred at verizon.net>
> To: "donovanf" <donovanf at starpower.net>, "ncdxa" <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 6:36:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCDXA] Dayton Question
>
> tnx for the correction on cycle 25.
>
> I was considering putting up a loop for 160 receiving, but now having second thoughts.
>
> 73
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank W3LPL <donovanf at starpower.net>
> To: ncdxa <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 2:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [NCDXA] Dayton Question
>
> Cycle 19 !!!!!!! ??????
>
> Aren't you about 65 years behind the times Fred?
>
> I hate to tell you but we're now more than two years into cycle 25.
>
> If you think 160 meters is degraded now, just wait a few years...
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> ________________________________
> From: "ncdxa" <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> To: "ncdxa" <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 3:49:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCDXA] Dayton Question
>
>
> Tnx Frank.
>
> I am more of a DXer than a top-band person.
>
> I only got into top-band because of contests, but I also enjoy some occasional DX on the band, like VK6LW.
>
> BTW, was we get into cycle 19 I noticed that goo propagation condx on top-band are becoming rare.
>
> I checked ON4Un's book, but he said that condx should remain the same.   That doesn't sound right based on some of my other readings, and my personal experience.
>
> 73
>
> fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank W3LPL via NCDXA <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> To: ncdxa <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:14 am
> Subject: Re: [NCDXA] Dayton Question
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> If you're a committed Topbamd DXer the Topband Dinner is by far the better
> of the two events. If you're just a DXer, the DX dinner might be better for you.
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "ncdxa" <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> To: "ncdxa" <ncdxa at ncdxa.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 3:04:06 PM
> Subject: [NCDXA] Dayton Question
>
> Hello NCDXA,
>
> I have tickets to two events at the same time...on Friday May 20.
>
> The SWODXA DX Dinner at the Marriott, and the Top Band Dinner at the Hope Hotel.
>
> I presume that I can sell the Top Band Dinner ticket.
>
> Or is the Top Band Dinner event the better of the two.
>
> Advice would be appreciated.
>
> 73
>
> Fred
> W3ICM
>
>
>
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